Limit (Pending) orders on Forex, and what are the standard parameters of setting a limit order?
Hi, I'm really new to forex, but I also trade stocks so I do have some understanding. But when I got my paper account (demo) to practice different strategies, I found that when I try to set a limit order it doesn't put my order through because my limit is supposedly too close to the market price. And this is the message my potential broker gives me - "Open price you set must differ from market price by X points." The X is different on different currency pairings, but in general it's always between 30-50 points. Which is really annoying because I don't want to use market execution because I get filled in a bad spot, but I can't use limit properly because it's too close to market price, and I would have to set my limit way out. Another thing is, when I used to trade stocks and I wanted to get into a long position, I could set my limit above the market price, in order to just not get filled in a crazy spot, but here I can't, and even when I put it below it's way too far from the current price. So my question is, is this normal amongst forex trading platforms, or is it just my broker? And if it is normal, what are some things you do to overcome being filled in a random number? And if it's not normal and it's just my broker, what are some brokerages you recommend that don't have this problem? Keep in mind I'm not a US citizen and don't live in the US, therefore not TD Ameritrade. Thank you!
Why I moved on from Robinhood to a proper broker (and am not looking back)
Hello fellow autists. It has now been around two weeks where I've moved on from Robinhood and am now using a proper broker (TD Ameritrade, using their "Think or Swim" mobile app / desktop app). I had been using Robinhood for about 1.5 years, but didn't realize the vast amounts of benefits you get at a proper broker (described below). I wish someone had told me about all this when I first started trading, so now I'm passing on this knowledge to youuuuuu. Perhaps other brokers have most if not all of these benefits, but I don't got experience with them.
Pretty cheap trades - While the main benefit of Robinhood is that its free - you can actually get pretty cheap trades with TDA. What you have to do is open a support request with them, and ask them to price match "Tastyworks" (https://tastyworks.com/pricing.html). You TELL them that you want them to price match their fees, or you'll leave etc... Can even ask for cheaper fees if you want. You can also get 300 free trades when you first sign up , and even free money (up to $600) if you deposit a LOT.
Practically unlimited day trades (for stocks and options) - this one was a big one for me, as I’m poor and have less than $25,000 in my trading account. You can ask for a “tier 2 cash account”, and you can do as MANY day trades as you want … but only if the money is “cleared”. Every time you make a trade, the money will clear the next day. What this means is that you can place a trade with 50% of your money in the morning, and then later in the day make another trade with the other 50%, then you can sell out of both positions. The next day the money will be cleared and you can continue trading. I went from doing that dumb 3 day trades every 5 days… to about 5-20 day trades every single day.
Charts have superb indicators in them - Here’s what my “charts” setup looks like - https://i.imgur.com/EiiWEHe.png - You can see I can monitor multiple charts at once (HUGELY beneficial), and I can see the 200d ma, VWAP, EMA clouds, and low and high of day. Hundreds of others to add if you want, and they all work on mobile too.
Combine having “unlimited” day trades with seeing proper indicators on a chart . . . and you can do my new day trading strategy of buying a few options when you see a setup occur (such as a stock going below the low of the day, or buying after it breaks the 200d ma). Then when the price hits a resistance point (such as the pre market highs), you can sell 50-75% of the contracts and lock in profits. Then you can add to your positions on pullbacks or just let the rest ride.
Good referral system - Refer someone and you can get either $50 or 10 free trades (with Robinhood I only ever for like $5 - $10 stocks)
Paper trading - Think or swim has paper trading, so you can practice losing money before you actually lose your real money
Stop loss on options - In a position but have to step out to a meeting? You can have little fear of the market going against you as you can put in stop losses for your options. As you set the stop loss for the price of the contract, it will even tell you what approximate price the stock will be
Market buy in and out of options - With Robinhood, if I wanted to get out of an option I’d put in a sell and it would put the price in between the bid and ask. Half the time it wouldn’t sell right away, so I’d have to cancel it then put in another (all the while the price keeps tanking). Now I can easily market sell something and boom it’s sold. You usually only want to do this if the option has high open interest / volume / tight bid & ask, which you can easily see. Also there’s no “this option can only be bought in 5 cent increment” bullshits
Buy today’s SPY option - lose your money even faster by getting same day expiry for SPY etc…
Easily see the prices for multiple options - Here’s what I see to buy into options (https://i.imgur.com/Ug8pskt.png). I can easily browse multiple strikes for today, and click into other dates to see those. No more clicking into an option… then clicking into it again to see the open volume etc… You can also see the IV on the very right of the tab name (with the date on it)
Excellent customer support, can live chat - Compared to RH where its practically 0 support and GG if you run into an issue
Transfer your IRA and day trade or do options on it - Lose your retirement funds too if you want. If it's a Roth IRA, gains are tax free (but losses aren’t a tax right off)
You can also link all of your accounts... And then trade with them all at once. So in a few clicks I can take a single trade that gets executed on my day trading account, my Roth IRA, and my traditional IRA
Excellent mobile app and desktop app that syncs - Tons of other features I’m leaving out too
Forex and futures - If you want, you can do forex and futures
Just download “Think or swim” and try out the “paper trading” at least, it's all free. You can also open a regular account and just do all of your chart viewing and option browsing, then go into RH if you want to buy in there. PM me if you have any questions :D
Serious studying weekend progress. My notes and study plan so far.
Don’t try to bet that a chart will break resistance unless catalyst. Give it 5~10 minutes for it break resistance, if not, get out. stock without clear resistance and support are harder to predic Resistance can be diagonal in trendline. Chasing can work but very very very very risky, if you must, wait for a pull back to supportline. Multi month resistance Breakout after multi day uptrend can be explosive. When break out happens and fall right back through resistance, it’s bearish, must exit! Down trend after a double top is a EXIT SIGN very BEARISH Triple bottom with decreasing volume is BULLISH When double top forms, GET OUT, BEARISH. Double top mentality is wanting to break even and people want to sell and short sell. Triple top falls wayyyy faster than double top Head and shoulder is even worse, it can’t even create double or triple top. GET OUT. Try to avoid symmetrical triangle, it’s only 50 50.bullish or bearish. ¾ stocks follow the market, check SPY frequently. ALSO check Russell 2000 and Wilshire 5000 those are for pennystocks. GOLD SILVER OILD FOREX USDEUR can be difficult, try to avoid. S not a good sign. Biotech are risky. They do p/d a lot. Financial stocks are slow and complicated. Same with commodity. Deathcross - 50 sma below 200 sma. Go down down. If anyone is looking for a real experience and lack the time or want some kind of practice. Make a TD ameritrade account and download think or swim. TOS is the real time chart i use and it has the function called the on-demand. Ondemand can be set on certain date in the past to see how the chart went on, on that day. It's great to see how things happened in the past to learn. ALSO I found it to be a great practice tool to practice "what if" situation. Say, in the past AWSM in september had an amazing run and it takes you back to that time period. I then write down where I would have entered in for a day-trade and see how the chart plays out. This has helped me get a feel for how charts react hence it will help me to trade better in the future.
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